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ggrobot Elite Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: Carmack on Q3A, Quake Live, Crysis [25419] |
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GamesRadar has posted a Q&A with John Carmack, the id Software Technical Director as he taks about Quake Live, id\'s upcoming free shooter.
PC Gamer: What inspired you to resurrect Quake III Arena as Quake Live?
John Carmack: At the very highest level, Quake Live - what we originally called Qu
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Renton Junior Member

Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: Braking walls |
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I´d think that this is the best time for PC Gaming in a while, with the consoles pricings freeze we are now seeing excelent hardware at greatest prices. Everyone knows that it isn´t necessary a Quad Core Extremme and 3-Way SLI 9800X2 to play the latest games at very high resolutions and filters. With just and old 8800GTX and a Core 2 Duo E6700/8400 series we are able to play everything out there, all the consoles ports inclusive looks amazing. And if it´s true what they say about the performance of the GeForce GTX 260 & 280, the truly next genraration of NVidia GPU (not the 9000 series “fiasco”), with the GTX 260 arround $400 gives a run for the money to acquire outstanding graphics performance. Behind the stupid reference of the ridiculous statement of the producer of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed about needing a $4000 PC to “move the game”, we are watching more and more ports to the PC, like Saint Row 2 (the competitor of GTAIV till it comes out on PC), Resident Evil 5, Devil May Cry 4, Gran Turismo, Mass Effect, Burnout Paradise, etc.
We are in the times that the consoles slowing are getting behind the PC in performances and capabilities and the hardware that equals them are day to day more and more cheaper. I think this is the second PC coming since the late 90s’.
Quake Live is the first of many of their kind (like Company of Heroes) that demonstrates the versatile that PC actually is. This is great idea. Imagine been in a bar with wi-fi with your cheap Asus EEE Notebook playing Company or Quake til’ the lunch time pass and you go back to work. Eat that consoles!
Pardon my English, I’m from Argentina. |
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Sabot Elite Member

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2402 Location: The Dark Side of The Moon
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but this is a contradiction in terms. How can you possibly compare a FREE game with the 'new rise of PC games'? Quoting 100,000 people playing Quake3 is like saying their are 3 million pirates playing Crysis! of course your going to get silly figures when it's for nowt
I played Quake3 Arena, RTCW/ET, Interstate '76 etc,etc. WHEN the PC was in its heyday.
That was when the consoles were inferior, now you just quoted that console ports are coming to the PC, that's because the consoles ARE PCs, but optimised for the games they play, MINUS the fact you don't go paying for the OS and over-priced hardware that is lucky to last 18months.
Sorry but there is more to graphics in terms of gameplay on ANY platform. The amount of adults playing for eg a Nintendo DS on buses and in offices via wireless blows the PC into perspective.
Besides the consoles cst NOTHING in comparison with the price of ONE graphics card!! Add to that CPU/RAM Mobo upgrade and the PC is a laughing stock.
Along comes Windows 7 and a whole new set off hardware is needed in just 2 years time inc buying the os that is wn7.
Yeah it's cheap upgrading/owning a PC for games....not!
Reality check more like
Oh and i wrote this on my PS3
If the pc has the 'superior controls' ie, mouse & keyboard, then why doesn't the FPS sales tally up with this marvellous innovation? Just thought i would ask, since COD4 on console (for eg) mops up the dribbles that the PC has sold in comparison.
The LAST thing that the PC had going for it no longer gives it credibility, no one cares about keyboard/mouse controls. Generations are brought up on consoles and use PCs for work. It's tooo much like hardwork 'mummying' a PC now, whe all we want to do is play games!
That my friend is reality, there is no second coming *unless* the PC turns into a console and adopts some sort of stabilty and structure to it's SHORT shelf life.
Nothing on the PC lasts a year before it's fully superceded.
Tell that to someone who buys the latest,greatest graphics card/CPU at 400-500 bucks a shot for it to be dropped and replaced in 12months time.
Sounds brilliant eh...........
Menwhile, if my PS3 lasted 5 years i would be ecstatic at 300 bucks for internet,bluetooth,Dolby True HD,HDMI output, High deff films AND games and a replaceable HDD.
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Renton Junior Member

Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 174 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: RE |
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Because the game has publicity. Play on internet in PC is totally free, in consoles you have to pay an account. The way you think about the hardware getting old is the way almost everyone compares the PC. Like i said, it is not neccesary the very high end ring setup to run the games perfectly and also, everytime there's something new i sold my "old" hard before gets the new, I don't trow it away. Never loose more than 50% of the original cost and in most cases i lost only a 10/20% of the original value.
A PS3 80GB cost arround $550
A gaming rig who equals and outstands the PS3 by far costs arround $500 to $800
I believe, as you say that the game needs to feel better that it looks, totally agree. It can be the pretiest game ever and have a shitty playability, that is pure crap.
Wich i most love about PC Gaming is not the interface, but the advantage of create or download configs, mods and finally play the game the way i want. I really dont like the "put the disk and press the start button situation"; but it is, as i said, a personal preference. In terms of interface, try to do strafe jump Q3A with a gamepad and then tell how it works.
Someone declares a war out there that it obeys economic interests of diferent companies. Some one's like Valve bet on the PC, others like Lucas Arts bet on Consoles. In the end, Nvidia makes the chip on your PS3 and NVidia makes the Chip of my 8800GTX and when the numbers are drawn for most of the companies it is a win-win situation.
The only one it pays is the guy who has a 360 and the game he likes is PS3 exclusive or the one that has a PS3 and the title wanted is PC exclusive, i totally hate this situation. I buy a 360 only to play Halo 3 and then sold it cause i was afraid it give me a RROD.
I'm a grapchic designer and movie entusiast, my PC is plugged to everything, to my HT, to my CD File system, it's my HD player, my media center, my gaming plataform and, also, my multi-screen place of work.
Maybe an unified plataform is the way of the future, a couple of years for now the PC's, the Consoles and the Media Centers will be one artifact. Who wants cables, gadjets, 5 remote controllers, etc all over the place draining an insane amount of electricity?
Also is true that a PC component can be superceded in a year or so but you are going to stuck with the same shitty and today already old PS3 hardware over the next generation of consoles appears...
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Sabot Elite Member

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2402 Location: The Dark Side of The Moon
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah? Well you clearly don't know what your talking about!
The PS3 has FREE online gaming ok, it's the DeadBox360 that you pay to play.
Who mentioned 80gig HDD PS3? Thought so, NO ONE!
Buy a 300 buck 40gig modle, then buy a standard 2.5" notebook 250gig SATA HDD for 30bucks, pull out 40gig and replace with 250gig, voila NOT 500bucks!
Really, do some research before sounding stupid and they say PC owners are supposed to be clever?
As per usual, unless you upgrade, your ALSO stuck with shitty PC graphics; except the console looks permanetly better becasue the games are STILL being wrote for them (yep, they still haven't got full power out the PS3) Instead you buy your new shinny DX10 card and by Chrsitmas it's obsolete because the next game you want is optimised for a Nvidia 98,0000TwinTurbo and supports more sparkly water and even better TREE shadows. SO you can walk about with your gun in the air moving it across the sun to see those truly worthy 400 buck shadows; sod the gameplay eh? Just LOOK at those graphics!!!
Vain or what.....
Meanwhile i'm 44hours into GTA4 and completed just 38%, now the gameplay is superb, but you'll have to wait untill near Xmas AND a NEW graphics card to play it
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